Donationware is not allowed

  • We have recently taken a stance against donationware on our website, we have decided to remove any existing donationware on the website and we will not allow any future donationware until further notice. Here's our reason for not allowing donationware any longer.

    If you feel this is unfair or have questions about this, feel free to create a ticket here and we'll help you out.


    Updated Policy

    Donationware is still not allowed. However, we allow demo versions of payware to be uploaded, as long as it meets our requirements and it's still entirely free.


    - The Flightsim.to moderation team

  • What is donationware?

    Donationware is officially defined as: "a licensing model that supplies fully operational unrestricted software to the user and requests an optional donation be paid to the programmer or a third-party beneficiary". We are referring to addons that (partially) lock features behind a donation such as only including a section of the scenery for free or only providing support (updates) when a user donates.

  • Donationware is officially defined as: "a licensing model that supplies fully operational unrestricted software to the user and requests an optional donation be paid to the programmer or a third-party beneficiary". We are referring to addons that (partially) lock features behind a donation such as only including a section of the scenery for free or only providing support (updates) when a user donates.

    So if an addon is a free full version that does not have any locked or partially locked features, then they are allowed? I hope so because if a free addon is good enough to attract donations in the first place, then that would encourage the creation of more top quality freeware.

  • So if an addon is a free full version that does not have any locked or partially locked features, then they are allowed? I hope so because if a free addon is good enough to attract donations in the first place, then that would encourage the creation of more top quality freeware.

    As trille12321 pointed out, that is indeed allowed. A free version would also be allowed if it's a demo for a payware version that can be found on a trusted storefront (i.e. simMarket). As long as the free version isn't excluding content from a version for which you have to donate, it is allowed.

  • As trille12321 pointed out, that is indeed allowed. A free version would also be allowed if it's a demo for a payware version that can be found on a trusted storefront (i.e. simMarket). As long as the free version isn't excluding content from a version for which you have to donate, it is allowed.

    If the only feature that separates the freeware with the paid version is time limit , am i allowed to upload it?

  • Then that's a demo for payware, not freeware. So I doubt it. :D

    But see the post before mine. It says:

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    A free version would also be allowed if it's a demo for a payware version that can be found on a trusted storefront (i.e. simMarket). As long as the free version isn't excluding content from a version for which you have to donate, it is allowed.

  • Ok, you got me. That's a strange policy though. 'A demo is allowed as long as it's not a demo'.


    In my opinion putting a time constraint on a mod to make you buy the full version is worse than locking features to make you buy the full version.

    Maybe so...and for sure not for a site like flightsim.to. In my case its more convenient to have a time limit than restrict features.

  • Ok, you got me. That's a strange policy though. 'A demo is allowed as long as it's not a demo'.


    In my opinion putting a time constraint on a mod to make you buy the full version is worse than locking features to make you buy the full version.

    Semantics. You're thinking of a demo version being a part of a bigger package. Right. But a demo can be a whole package which has a time limit on it.

    My understanding is that this site has decided that the time-limit demo is fine, whereas the feature limited version isn't.

    Think of the demo version here being like a car test drive. You get to try out all the features, but you don't get to keep the car unless you pay for it. The feature limited demo is more like someone delivering a TV to you that can only tune to PBS until you buy a decoder to get to the other channels. :S

    JohnG

    From Oz, Flight Simmer since FS1 - seriously since FS95

    Contributed to, and managed a site called ProjectAI for a time

  • Donationware is officially defined as: "a licensing model that supplies fully operational unrestricted software to the user and requests an optional donation be paid to the programmer or a third-party beneficiary". We are referring to addons that (partially) lock features behind a donation such as only including a section of the scenery for free or only providing support (updates) when a user donates.

    You mean such as

    https://flightsim.to/file/10350/aerosoft-crj-700-blank

    which provides a blank model, but demands that you purchase the model from xyz if you want to see liveries on it?

    Then if that's the policy, this is one that needs to be pulled! Again, just my 2c.

    JohnG

    From Oz, Flight Simmer since FS1 - seriously since FS95

    Contributed to, and managed a site called ProjectAI for a time

  • This post is about donationware not demos of payware so maybe has gone a tad off track? Personally I have never seen any donationware that related to demos of payware either time restricted or feature restricted. I think the two issues are unrelated and combining them in this thread is confusing. So I go back to my original comment that if an addon is a free full version that does not have any locked or partially locked features, then a request (NOT a requirement) for a donation is acceptable and reasonable.


    How the moderators handle payware or payware demos restricted or otherwise is another matter; after all the website has to pay for itself somehow.

  • Quote from R1NS3


    As trille12321 pointed out, that is indeed allowed. A free version would also be allowed if it's a demo for a payware version that can be found on a trusted storefront (i.e. simMarket). As long as the free version isn't excluding content from a version for which you have to donate, it is allowed.

    And that would appear to embrace the issue of the crj-700!

    JohnG

    From Oz, Flight Simmer since FS1 - seriously since FS95

    Contributed to, and managed a site called ProjectAI for a time

  • You mean such as

    https://flightsim.to/file/10350/aerosoft-crj-700-blank

    which provides a blank model, but demands that you purchase the model from xyz if you want to see liveries on it?

    Then if that's the policy, this is one that needs to be pulled! Again, just my 2c.

    I think the addon in question is simply a blank slate for people to create liveries with, it's more of a paintkit for others to use for a livery rather than a "demo". The addon also does not offer a "blank model" but rather a "blank texture" for the newly released Aerosoft CRJ. As such, this addon will be allowed since it is not any demo of sorts. Yes, you wouldn't be able to use the addon without purchasing the CRJ, but then no liveries would be allowed for third-party planes.

  • Then the description is highly misleading. It says nothing about being a texture blank, and the images actually suggest a white plane on the ground, and in the air.

    JohnG

    From Oz, Flight Simmer since FS1 - seriously since FS95

    Contributed to, and managed a site called ProjectAI for a time